ngtm1r wrote:

ShadowGorrath wrote:Ok, enough. Shut up, all of you. Not only are you way off topic, but you're also making Sectorgame public Chatter forums into a way to flame each other. Either do it in the Rants forum, or stop it and start acting like civilised people. No exceptions to any of you.

You're not a moderator, don't act like it.

If Mobius posts this kind of thing, he must be prepared to have it turned upon him. If you don't want public criticism, don't post in a public forum. All told, we've been remarkably polite considering his high-handed tone and baseless assertions of conspiracy and vendetta. This kind of assertion is not the sort of thing you'd survive on most forums. (Pull this on RPG.net for example, and you'll be out on your ass so quickly your head will spin. SD.net you wouldn't even last long enough to post this kind of drivel.) The mere fact he isn't completely banned for this kind of conspiracy-mongering puts the lie to all his assertions.

I am a moderator Just not in Chatter.

The reason why I told everyone to shut up is because everyone's actually importing the issues from HLP to here, and making Sectorgame look bad. I may not be an admin or moderator here, but still a part of the Sectorgame community. Don't blame me for trying to make people stop flaming each other and divert them to the Rants forum, where such stuff belongs.

May this be split though?

P.S. ngtm1r, are you testing DoS already...?

Mobius wrote: Now, take a look at the people who're causing this. The only reason why this is happening is simple: someone is pushing the "Import Issue from HLP" button. Read my first posts on this thread - are they related to HLP or GW? They're not. It was karajorma who caused this by pushing the button I mentioned above, and no one can't blame for me for replying to all these comments. I'm not the one who derailed this thread, and this is a fact - not an opinion.

He didn't. He did nothing of the sort that is detectable by anyone who is not you. This is, in fact, fact, not opinion. He did, perhaps, call on your history of flawed argumentation to discredit you, which while not entirely a nice tactic is most certainly a valid one, but frankly you provoked this entire parcel of "you're wrong and probably an asshat" by being...well, wrong and probably an asshat. The truth is ugly, but it must be looked upon.

Mobius wrote: If there were different people saying these things, it would have been interesting and acceptable. A copy and paste from HLP makes your opinion obvious and pretty expectable.

This is, unfortunately, hilarous, since the closest thing to copy and paste of opinion in this thread actually comes from Karaj, and that was from GW and was actually a copy of an argumentative strategy rather than an opinion. Even then it was significantly adapted.

However you opened the HLP line of questioning by copying and pasting your opinions, as it were, with your sprawling, unproveable, poorly thought out rant. Having opened the door, you should not act surprised when everything in the closet falls on you.

Mobius wrote: NGTM-1R: That's pure misinformation. No offense to Galemp and his recent claim, but I forgot about who's the true leader of NTV on purpose - carrying on was not necessary, and would have meant going against a person I have no bad things to say about. Both me and Galemp have our claims to backup our assumptions, and it's quite probable that Galemp forgot about assigning the role of leader to me. But this doesn't change anything - I asked to move NTV because HLP's staff was evidently confusing punishment for bad behavior on the forums with relenting (and, sometimes, halting) development.

This is madness of the first order.

You were not monkeyed prior to the NTV fiasco. (Not that monkeying should matter what with internal access!) You were wiki-edit-banned, but that does not, can not, affect the progress of NTV. You were, of course, widely disliked for your manner and behaviors, but then again, so is Blackdove and he keeps contributing meaningfully to BWO when not being a troll.

GalEmp was the project leader of record and as such had authority. Having worked with him for a long stretch of time on SA and later ST:R, the conceit that he would forget passing along project leadership, much less do so without leaving some kind of note on the forum is simply not one I will believe. I have spoken with him on numerous occasions and read many and sundry posts and he has never, even when drunk, come across as anything remotely like that scatterbrained. I have no doubt that Karaj and Goober would agree with this assertion.

Perhaps you assumed a leadership role in his absence, but you were not the project leader. No other reasonable conclusion exists and your attempt to fog the issue reflects poorly on you.

Mobius wrote: Wheter or not the HLP admins decided who should be leading NTV despite my obvious efforts to keep the project alive is another matter. Apparently, something similar happened to the FSCRP as well.

Blatant, rampant egotism, claiming that you are the man who keeps the project afloat, is grounds for being booted from one, not being given leadership of it. You are fundementally in the wrong line of work here, if you demand recognition for your services. But more to the point, you cannot merely move in and start working and claim that gives you the right to be in charge. That's not how reality works. You require, at minimum, some kind of appointment by public acclaimation, which never took place; much less the kind of actual, public changing of the guard that you claim happened.

Mobius wrote: As for insulting karajorma on the BtRL forum, I hardly doubt that's true. I posted a comment, which got a harsh reply by karajorma himself - the consequent reaction (saying that disrespecting people so easily and with impunity is not civil) can be hardly considered an offense.

Total lies. You claimed that Omniscaper couldn't keep running BtRL because of Karajorma's presence, without evidence, because you had issues with Karaj from HLP regarding your recent monkeying. It was clearly a revenge motivated, and to everyone else clearly petty, attack.

Mobius wrote: Moreso, karajorma did not apologize for his unnecessary offenses by claiming that I haven't been sorry for what I did on HLP (which is false) and also sent a number of PMs in which he carried out with offenses (indirectly or not). At this point, I hardly doubt you can point me out as the offender here - unlike karajorma, I did not make an extensive use of vulgarities (read = offenses).

This is the internet. If you can't handle a few swears directed at you, in jest or otherwise, then you shouldn't be here. He is correct; you have not demonstrated any form of public remorse (quite the opposite; this thread is proof of that). If he swore at you...Jesus Christ on a pogo stick man, get over it. Are you really that sheltered?

Or are you just grasping at justificational straws? (I'm not even sure that's a word, but oh well.)

Mobius wrote: Your arguments about the Wiki are quite poor. I surely didn't come out with a Wiki policy - it's the HLP admins who interpreted an invitation which was intended to suggest people to rely more on talk pages. See? That's an interpretation you may or may not have shared - this doesn't mean that I wanted to impose a policy. That said, you can hardly blame me for a wrong interpretation of my actions. The funny thing is that you consider that interpretation a fact when it clearly isn't.

You attempted to dictate the policy of disambiguation pages, to Snail among others, I daresay I could dig up the page history for that if I could be bothered. (This doesn't get a "fact" tag because I'm not going to dig through that much page history. Yet.)

You attempted to sneak in a new template as a minor edit, but Goober caught you. (Fact.) This is at the least highly irregular behavior. Wikipedia wouldn't have stood for it, but we aren't as hard-ass as they are, so you got a week's ban. Then you went off the deep end, so it became permanent.

You attempted to introduce your own policies in the wiki forum (Fact), which are there for everyone to see. You later in the same thread used your shot-down efforts in earlier threads as if they had flown, which they had not. I even called you out on that.

The existence of your moving the spat with Snail to the wiki talk pages is also public record, and was commented about by many and sundry.

Mobius wrote: About NTV (again) - me attempting to kill the project? That's funny - I wanted to move the project because I thought an environment in which forum issues don't affect development was necessary. I have never tried to kill NTV (and the fact that I'm the only person who's recently worked on the plot, the modpack and also worked a lot on the first few missions is well enough to force people to reconsider their opinion), and trying to claim it is totally wrong. Once again, it's your personal interpretation to lead people to think that I tried to kill NTV. Once again, you have proved to claim the false. How do you deal with it?

And karajorma indirectly attempted to kill NTV. He clearly told me via PM that he was for my banning, and that means halting progress on the project.

So NTV cannot continue without you? (Egotism.) You have gathered all useful information to yourself? (Bad leadership.) The forum will self-destruct when you are banned? (Insanity.)

Pick one.

At the time, when your banning looked probable, I was ready, willing, and able to step in and rebuild NTV from the ground up if that was what was required to save the project after you left. I never actually bothered to state it, because without your removal it was so much wasted effort to do so.

If NTV is, as you say, at a standstill because you are unable to publically post on HLP (and do not think it has not been noted that you ceased visiting since then; you have tried to kill the project by your absence), then fine.

I offer my services to HLP to rebuild it. They know what I'm capable of; I've written numerous short essays on subjects like campaign design, subspace-age tactics, the danger and the demonstrated skills of the Shivans, that were well-recieved. I have the intellectual skills to create and tell a good story, and unlike you a willingness to listen. I may be confrontational with the moderation at times, but I have contributed to various campaigns and I have that most desirable leadership trait: I'm actually there, and I push people (as some I've tested for, like BWO, can say) to actually accomplish stuff.

Mobius wrote: Now, if you consider the human aspect of the deal, what are the chances to continue to work on a project after a banning an a truly unfair treatment? I would have simply resigned the team, hoping that someone else would take my place as FREDder, plot writer and modpack creator. Giving the shortage of dedicated FREDders nowadays, do you think it would have been easy to keep NTV alive?

Quite good. You've abandoned it, after all. There are times when I think your banning would be the best possible thing that could happen to NTV and the FSCRP, because I suspect like me other people, experienced people, would move into them.

Mobius wrote: A similar concept can also be applied to FSCRP and INF. If you could only take a look at the internal forums of these two projects, you'd notice how relevant my efforts are. Speaking of the FSCRP, I'm pretty much the only person who's actively upgrading campaigns, but the lack of testers and additional FREDders is slowing down progress. As for INF, I'm the only active FREDder and I'm also working a lot of upgrading the whole package, adding new features, recruiting new members and managing the plot. Now, after reading this, how can you claim (indirectly or not) that the projects would remain alive without me? Monkeying me for what I did on the public forums is ok, but banning my account means killing three projects hosted at HLP.

Your efforts have driven at least two good people from INF, one of them an accomplished FREDder. (Snail is one; I will allow the other to reveal himself or not at his discretion.) FSCRP is starved of other FREDders because, frankly, you impose your view of things on campaigns and none of the experienced people want to work with you. You contradict yourself; you are a detriment to the projects, since by your own admission the bottleneck is FRED people and they've actually left because of you.

So you're making it a challenge? I accept. Leave.

Mobius wrote: Finally, about the last bit of your post, in which you ask for proof:

1) HLP admins deciding what to do with FS Wiki accounts in an abuse of powers, as HLP admins who aren't Wiki admins should not have the authority to do that;

The wiki is directly affiliated with HLP despite its pan-Freespace nature and as such is subject to HLP's desires; things which do not pass muster on one will not do so on the other; you also have yet to prove that the wiki ban was the result of anyone but Goober.

Mobius wrote: 2) Karajorma trying to import issues from HLP to GW (and, consequently, to GW to SG) is an abuse of powers because he's clearly exploting the fact that he's a moderator here on GW (and, in fact, no one complained when he started derailing this thread);

You imported the issues first, QED, and so they should not surprise you. At this point, I begin to suspect you are constitutionally unable to take responsiblity for your own actions.



I will unpack the rest of this pile of crap at a later date, as right now I have commitments to honor.[/i]

Mobius wrote:And karajorma indirectly attempted to kill NTV. He clearly told me via PM that he was for my banning, and that means halting progress on the project.

This particular comment really needs a reply.

No, Mobius. I did not threaten to ban you. I said you were placing yourself on a path that could only lead to you being banned. Actually, let me just quote the PM that you are misrepresenting on here since it is the crux of your entire argument.

I'll put this simply Mobius. Your current path will lead to a ban from HLP and GW (and not from me either most likely, I've already talked the HLP admins out of banning you once. I won't be doing it again). It will probably lead to a ban from SG too since you're not as popular as you may believe over there either.

Either you stop, take stock of your recent actions and try to once again act like a sensible member of this community or you'll most likely find yourself ejected from it.

To be honest, I've had enough. I hereby formally announce that I'm not saving you again. I'm not taking any further part in any decisions on your fate by the administrative staff of either HLP or GW. I won't be moderating your threads any further and will simply report anything I find objectionable.

I suspect the terrible depth of your mistake in alienating the admin who has done more to prevent you being banned from HLP than any other will shortly be made apparent to you.

Mobius, you constantly alienate the people who try to befriend and help you. I don't get it.

As for the issue of moving issues from place to place: if you simply stopped worrying about the ban and went about your work with dignity like everyone else, these issues would never come up. Bans aren't meant to isolate you, they're meant to change your behavior.

You prove that you aren't worth being banned when you stop acting the same way that got you banned.

Oh and as for contradicting Kara and Goob: I was there. I sat in on the discussion. People tried to save you. Non-Kara/Goob admins suggested the wiki ban and permamonkey.

TL;DR to the max.

Snail wrote:TL;DR to the max.

I read it. All of it.

You did the right thing.

Actually, I did try to read it. But the amount of pure bullshittery in there.... Oooh...


Alright, TBH Mobius holds a fair few points. He is a very productive worker. He gets lots of things done. But the fact that he works hard is no excuse for his recent behavior. At least IMHO.

Actually this was originally my thread about accepting the remade BSG. That's over with now so I'm not really bothered if it's locked.

And we're back folks, so let's finish this.

Mobius wrote:One more thing: I would normally accepted the recent punishment, but it's the behavior of certain people which is making people worse. A while ago, for example, I got a very disturbing PM from Goober5000 - in poor words, he said that people (who?) believe that I talk a lot about projects without achieving anything.

Well, I'm pretty sure certain requests were made of you on GW about the site that were not accomplished. However, that's not my province, so meh.

Mobius wrote: He also said that the only reason why I haven't been banned is the Galemp still thinks I have something to offer... you can't even imagine how annoying those words were. Truly annoying, because spending many hundred hours working on projects only to read an attempt to minimize my work is totally awful. He may have asked Admiral Nelson, Woomeister, SadisticSid (even if inactive) and Macfie before claiming, indirectly or not, that I don't do anything. I have the misfortune of working with skeleton teams, and this leads to continuous delays... but how can Goober blame me for that? He is an HLP admin, and he's therefore able to take a look at the private forums.

When I told him that he was wrong (because what he said was false) he changed behavior and replied with a vague PM. When I redirected him to examples of my work, he said that I got the stuff done before the recent events. I told him to take a look at the files to see when they got created and modified for the last time... guess what, he didn't reply.

The beauty of PM conversations is this is all unproveable, and given that you're not posting the actual content of the messages here, I can't say I'm inclined to take your word for anything after Karaj has demonstrated your ability to misinterpret things.

As for annoying: actually, yeah, I can.

Also, your presence lately on HLP has been nonexistant. I've watched this, I've checked HLP to see if you're logged in there when you are here or at GW. You aren't, without exception. If you wish to plead that you're still moving forward, why have I not even seen you doing something as simple as showing up?

Mobius wrote: That was illogical. He was basically giving for sure that I stopped working after the recent events... how's that even possible? Do you think I would continue to browse the HLP, GW and SG boards if I were no longer interested on the projects? I might have simply left the community (and I would have done it under different circumstances) and forget about you all. Guess why I didn't? Because I have never considered the possibility of condemn three projects to death simply because a handful of people got uptight and decided to interpret my own actions according to their personal thoughts. In any case, Goober's total disrespect is one of the main reasons why I overreacted here. I'd really like to know what he would have done had a random member complained about the possible death of ST:R a while ago.

I just told you; I've watched the who's online section for HLP when you're logged in here, or at GW, and not seen you there. Goober can probably manage the same thing.

Your continued assertion that you are all that keeps these projects afloat reflects no credit on you. They existed before you, and at this rate, they will exist after you are gone.

He'd have locked the thread as a troll and moved on, much as everyone else does. It's basically standard operating procedure on HLP. Hell, I think he has, unless GalEmp or somebody else beat him to all of them it.

Mobius wrote: Karajorma: I'm afraid you're evading the main subject of this discussion, as the reasons which led this topic to derail as not as vague as you're trying to specify.

I am fully aware of the fact that my reaction is exaggerated, but if you were me what would you do? What you have done in the past few posts is offending me, so you shouldn't be surprised

It's quite funny how you're proving me right by making a wrong use of the term "everyone". Goober, Battuta, NGTM-1R, Snail and who else? Seriously, I receive PMs of people who appreciate my work and also thank me for what I do. I got seven positive PMs on HLP today, and it's quite funny to read you claiming that so many members are against me.

And yet, they are never here to defend you publically. Shadow's the only one who's even tried, and he's frankly not helping your case much or even attempting to argue for you on the merits.

The beauty of the "I get positive PMs" strategy being, of course, its unproveablity. (Nevermind my note about your apparent absence from the Who's Online list.) You can't just say this stuff anymore, Mobius. Nobody's going to believe you without evidence.

Mobius wrote: The people I work on appreciate my work, and I can't wait to see Nelson coming back to check out my latest upgrade of Warzone. Your use of the word "everyone" is therefore out of place because you can consider a handful of people and then claim that the whole community is against me. That's a bit arrogant, isn't it?

On the other hand, I talked with people who don't like you, and their number is quite high considering the community members you mentioned eariler. For the sake of coherence, you should be as much as embarassed and offensed as you think I should be.

Again, prove it. You have facts, yes? Evidence? A legion of Karajorma-haters who will soon delurk and attack, demanding his de-modding?

Or are you blowing smoke and putting up mirrors?

Besides, if you're going to argue on what's being done for the community, Karaj has done more for the FSO community with his right pinky finger than pretty much everyone else on SG (with the exceptions of VA and Goober) combined. If you're supposed to get special dispensation on your actions, where's his? If we're supposed to love you for your works, why do you not love him?

Mobius wrote: I also find quite funny how you're evading many important subjects. First of all, there's nothing in your post about, just to mention an example, that banning me is not going to help the community. The monkeying is ok and I'm not complaining about it - it simply means that I need to wait a while before being able to post public updates (which isn't even that important). It's the attempt to go against INF, the FSCRP and NTV to bug me. The one thing I dislike was how you (Goober and you) showed no respect towards my work. You were ready to ban me, meaning that you basically wanted to prevent me from working. Goober sent two disrespectful PMs in which he minimized my work and also came out with false claims. Do you think it's weird to dislike your actions after the episodes which occurred after my monkeying?

You're talking out of your ass, bluntly, as he's done nothing of the sort. Whether it will help the community is the thrust of the comments; specifically, whether removing you from the community for your transgressions is wise and proper. You are, in fact, lucky this is even a question. Any other forum I visit, you would not have been granted this much leniency.

This is frankly, self-contradicting as well, since you claim you have no issue with the monkeying, and then outright state you have an issue with being monkeyed in the last sentence.

Mobius wrote: In poor words, and I really dislike to say this, you and Goober don't know how to deal with developers. Your truly demotivating PMs and claims don't help morale, and in fact I haven't resigned from my roles because I'm the way too dedicated to resign. I'm not overrating my position within the teams I mentioned because browsing the private forums would be well enough to acknowledge the importance of my position within the INF, FSCRP and NTV teams.

You've got to be joking. They have more experience working with FS development than anyone else in the community, excepting IceFire and Ace. (Both of whom come to us down through the ages from the original Derelict team.)

Also, very bluntly: I have no faith in the quality of your work, no matter its quantity. You failed your most recent trial of fire by suggesting (against logic and canon) that ST:R should be more like Ace Combat, only for the community to reject the concept. Your poor argumentative, linguistic, and logical skills make me fear for the final fate of the projects you have worked on. Doubtless they will be playable, but storywise, I have every reason to believe they will unrealistic (even by FS sandards), illogical trainwrecks.

Mobius wrote: We have all seen community members resigning for much less, so I think it's more appropriate for us all to calm down a bit and show more respect.

We have? Name them. I must have missed the memo.

Mobius wrote: I believe anyone's actions may be questioned if necessary. My actions were, but at this point I think your actions should be questioned as well. You may claim the contrary, but at this point I'm pretty sure that you and Goober need to behave differently. What's the advantage in being hosted at HLP if you indirectly lead developers to resign following accidents?

Yet you refuse to allow any questioning of your actions to stand unchallenged. I suppose that's your perogative, but then, you keep fighting long after the battle is lost. I have no idea if you think you're on some kind of noble crusade here (and I sincerely hope not, that would suggest a level of delusion that's probably not something that can be rehabilitated).

But frankly, you're off your rocker. The only folks who've had problems with them are...you. Alone. More people are upset about Fury's behavior than Goober and Karaj's by far.

Mobius wrote: I used to respect you both, and even a lot. But after your recent behavior I have seriously reconsidered my opinion. One more thing: open yourself to criticism and self criticism, because I doubt that another developer dealing you would decide not to resign following another superb example of demotivating behavior. Please note that this is not an offense - this is a suggestion. It's not an imposition, either.

It is an imposistion, and an offence, as they are and have proved so on numerous past occasions. You presume you are correct automatically (I count at least a half-dozen instances of it in the stuff I've unpacked in this part alone), once again. You also claim to speak for some kind of majority that, as far as empirical evidence goes, does not exist except inside your head.

Mobius wrote: General Battuta: First of all, welcome to SG. I would have appreciated your presence even more had the circumstances been different.

I would believe you, but karajorma and Goober5000's PMs were pretty clear in the personal messages they sent me (and I guess you haven't been informed about). Karajorma claimed he was for banning me while Goober said that it was Galemp who "saved" me. Are you sure of what you're saying? Your post is pretty much contradicting both Goober and karajorma.

This is, unfortunately, already disproved by Karaj (I keep trying to spell that Kharak and I haven't even had a Homeworld installed in years...) posting one of the actual PMs in question. You read them as you want to read them, not as they actually are, and for some reason, some persecution complex, you want them to be openly hostile and threatening rather than advisory.

Mobius is apparently unaware that the admins (Goob included) can see all the internal forums and therefore know exactly what he has done and when.

While Mobius is intelligent and productive, I'm seeing a lot of selective reading in order to reinforce his own belief that he's being persecuted and conspired against...when really it's more a matter of exasperation and people wanting to get on with their lives instead of dealing with more drama.

Why are you snapping at a non-moderator for having a point?

Matthew wrote:Why are you snapping at a non-moderator for having a point?

Perhaps because his point wasn't a whole lot more than a, "Can't we all just get along?" With all due respect, Matthew, to get a handle on what this is all about, you'd need to have been an active member of the FS community, at least in the forum sense, over the past few years. The fact that multiple moderators here are chiming in on the discussion should give you a hint that this isn't without cause.

Mobius, I don't know if it's really worth saying anything to you myself, since you never seem to have displayed a penchant for learning anything from the words of others, but I have some time to kill anyway. I have absolutely no connection with you from a developmental standpoint; I've never FREDded a mission, coded for the SCP, staffed the Wiki, or worked on a mod, so I have no personal grievances in these areas. But based on the body of evidence that I've seen, I have to almost completely stand with the opinion of the admins, mods, and developers of the community regarding your actions. I've read every single post on HLP (outside of one or two specific boards) for years, which includes just about every single post you've ever made on there, and your true personality is as plain as day through them. For a long time, I've wanted to dismiss your antagonistic tendencies as the side effects of a language barrier, or some unintentional flaw in communication skills, but it's become abundantly clear that all of this can't be dismissed so easily. Simply put, you have some massive issues on your end that are going to continue to alienate everyone you interact with until such time if/when you acknowledge them and start working to correct them.

What you really need to realize, before you go about realizing anything else, is that no one on a creative project is completely indispensable, no matter how technically and artistically proficient they may be. One's skill set does not somehow magically nullify the detrimental actions toward an entire community that one may conduct. The Descent community has received a first-hand lesson in such events, when, despite his coding and development prowess, one particular individual managed to turn just about an entire community against him through his egotistical behavior and massive antagonism. (Take note that said individual has developed a product that, under ordinary circumstances, the entire community would be absolutely drooling over, much as the FS community drools over the SCP as a whole.) Someone whose personality and behavioral issues manage to drive away incredibly creative individuals from projects they were previously dedicated to causes far more harm to said projects than the good he creates via his own skills, and removing him from said projects would do them far more good in term. When numerous individuals under diverse circumstances all raise the same objections against your behavior over a very long period of time..there's something to these complaints. This isn't a ridiculous vendetta, Mobius; it's a very real problem, one which I've come to doubt you'll ever be capable of acknowledging.

Oh, and as a side note, I love how you throw the "FSCRP" into your defense with other long-established projects, when it was largely your doing that that group organized in its current form in the first place. As I recall, it first started as nothing more than a few threads along the lines of, "Hey, let's polish up these old classics that have a few bugs in them." You're the one who jumped on trying to organize the effort into a bureaucracy. You're the one who wanted a new group with its own project badges to be formed. You're the one who came up with that godawful acronym, to fit with the myriad you spewed out for Inferno. I'm not saying that some of these occurrences weren't good ideas (except for that accursed acronym), but they were largely yours to begin with; the endeavor could have continued to function just fine as a series of singular threads in the Missions & Campaigns folder. Playing martyr over the organizational structure that you yourself created isn't worth your effort in doing so, as the concept could continue just as easily with it completely removed.

I typed up a nice medium-length post in response to Mobius' claims that I left Inferno under lack of interest, but I decided against posting it since I don't want to be drawn into this discussion.

What I would like to say, however, is that Mobius has a fair number of valid points. He isn't completely in the wrong here - Some of the administration's decisions as well as the general attitude of the community are a bit off or unduly harsh from my point of view.


Coming from me of all people, this might seem like some kind of act, but as someone who has known and worked with Mobius very closely for quite some time I have to say that your image of him is quite far from the truth. He may come off as arrogant and egotistical, but he is no liar. I genuinely believe he means to do good for this community even if recent events indicate otherwise.