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7 by Flipside
Admin
The more complicated the make the plumbing....

Personally, I think theres too much EW stuff going on. Still, the ships look nice :)
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8 by Hippo
Ascended SG Legend
Yeah, I'm caldari and I dont even like EW. Its too much of a game of who jams who first... EWAR drones are going to need a nerf, because they'll make every ship an EW ship, and once again its a game of who goes first.

11 by Flipside
Admin
Exactly, and the fact that the game is bending over further and further to accomodate the larger corps who have loads of ships and experience and can field players to cover all bases. Any corp who wants to specialise in anything other than piracy, such as a mining corp, is now in severe s###.

Basically, Eve seems to be heading more and more towards forcing people to PvP and that's wrong, I'm rapidly going off a game in which it's as easy to be killed as World of Warcraft, but 5 times as epensive. Personally, I'm not even certain I'll be returning after the patch looking at this lot :(

It's not that I mind PvP, ifor those that want to do it, t's that CCP are doing more and more to take away that choice.

12 by Hunter
Founder
Did I mention there is going to be T2 Barges aswell, including permitted operation of small Player Owned stations in high security space for small corporations.

And that, last year, there was many changes for mining corps with the big Exodus expansion?


Nothing for mining.. my ass ;). I post only on PVP stuff... I'm sure theres even more stuff I've not covered.

13 by Flipside
Admin
Well, in all fairness, I'm not going to leave without even trying it, but I'm really not too happy about the amount of EW and Webifier stuff that's going into this, I know the skills needed for them are pretty extreme, but nonetheless, I'm very concerned.

I think part of the problem is that most people who go on Sisi ARE there for the PvP, at least that's the impression I'm getting from the people posting on here ;)
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14 by Hippo
Ascended SG Legend
People on sisi are looking for PVP in an enviroment that they dont have to worry about losing their ships. I'm with hunter on this one, that miners and pvpers both get additions. But you only ever see one side arguing that the other gets everything.

I could go ranting that miners got ships that can kill a roid in a matter of minutes. They got T2 ammo before anyone else.

At the same time someone goes ranting that pvpers get dreads, and outposts, and POS's, and all the cool weapons that only work on players.

Who's right? Its both of them. Yes, things come out geared toward one side of the game. A lot of things come out for both sides too though. Its when people claim one side is getting everything and the other gets nothing that the pvp/carebear gap grows bigger and hostilities take root. We all play in the same game. Without pvp, the ship demand would be far lower. Without miners, the ship supply would be a lot lower (though i think we all agree that macrominers should rot in hell). We live in a symbiosis, and yet we only pay attention to what is being added we cant use,a dn shrug off everything else as one more trick up our sleeves.
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