d3jake wrote:Well, I guess that somebody (maybe the UN) has to get on OPEC's case before the prices will drop.
What I want to know is, the US occpies one of the leading prodceing countires of crude oil, and yet we have such high prices. Maybe we should get 50% of what the produce in exchange for setting up their country.

But... you also destroyed their country, so it kind of balances out, no?

d3jake wrote:Well, I guess that somebody (maybe the UN) has to get on OPEC's case before the prices will drop.
What I want to know is, the US occpies one of the leading prodceing countires of crude oil, and yet we have such high prices. Maybe we should get 50% of what the produce in exchange for setting up their country.

But you don't even have high prices; they're piss-low compared to many other places.

Incidentally, Iraq now imports petrol. That's how effective the invasion was in terms of using oil produce to rebuild the country after it was trashed.

If you want oil to cost less.... use less of it. Simple as that.

Do you have a better way for me to commute 25 miles between 2 cities every morning?

liberator wrote:Do you have a better way for me to commute 25 miles between 2 cities every morning?

Bus? Train? Car share with others & walk partway?

Oil Prices are set by the Oil companies AND the governement. A lot of what we pay in the UK is not Petrol prices but yet more taxes.

The Bush family is an Oil producing family, I can assure you that W and Jeb will be getting pats on the back for what they've done to oil prices.

Indeed. On 9/11 when all plane's were grounded, there was one plane allowed to depart first. Which contained Taliban family members.
So the rumors go.

Bush has his fingers in everything. He's running a business more than a nation.

The plane allowed to depart was Osama Bin Ladens' extended family, IIRC - evacuated 'for their own protection' without any FBI/CIA interrogation beforehand.

aldo wrote:

liberator wrote:Do you have a better way for me to commute 25 miles between 2 cities every morning?

Bus? Train?

Those options don't exist around here.

That doesn't sound like a very proactive attitude.

Complain to the local government to put some alternatives in. Plus if its for work, isn't it a tax write off anyway?

Ok, let's make this more clear. This isn't a suburb to a city. This is the County Seat of Limestone County to the County Seat of Madison County.

What little public trans there is in Huntsville is not availiable in Athens.

Greece eh?

Hmm well, can't you catch a Donkey bus or something?

Try again, look on a map of Alabama and you'll see what I mean.

See what I mean?

I know the exact feeling, Liberator. Out in the Philly suburbs where I live, public transportation is little to nonexistent, unless you count the rail line going into Philly. Things are too spread out to walk or ride a bike, so you're forced into driving everywhere. This whole gas prices debacle is getting out of control; remember just a few years ago, when it suddenly dipped below a dollar for several weeks? Now, it's more than twice as much, and it's the same damn hydrocarbon.

Frankly, if there isn't a bus service between the 2 towns you speak of, then your country is deeply fucked up.

Incidentally, UK petrol price is about £3 per US gallon (roughly equivalent to $5.50 or so). Part of that is tax, of course... but at least we have free healthcare and some semblance of public transport, so you make up your mind on relative costs.

There is way too much open land in rural America to provide bus service to everywhere.

Also, our gas is taked equally high (relatively, I've read as much as 75% of the price is tax), but we don't get the healthcare, public transport is iffy, and unreliable, and we still aren't guarenteed social security. Despite what we pay into it each paycheck.


Yep. The gov't here is royally fuct up.