Shivan Theory

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Here is a new theory on the Shivans for the purposes of this theory SA means main Shivan Armada and LF means Lucifer fleet, Here goes:

The LF was a group of exiles sent out into the galaxy by SA because they were murderers. The SA didn’t know there were other species in the galaxy so they gave them 2 destroyers, The Eva & Lucifer. The LF enjoyed killing which is why they slaughtered the ancients. The LF had modified their supplies, which would last for 20,000 Years to form Shivan Super Laser, an Impervious Shield system and other weapons, which they mounted on their destroyers After the Ancients were destroyed the LF were bored for 8000 years and decided to launch all their weapons at the GTA and PVN, but the LF was destroyed and eventually eliminated completely.

32 years later a Racsh… Racshas… Shivan cruiser entered GTVA space and was immediately fired upon by the Terran cruiser. (I know the Command Briefing video contradicts this and shows the Shivan cruiser firing first, but it was unlikely to be actual footage of the battle because a massacre was implied) The SA wasn’t happy about the unprovoked murder of 5000 Shivans and immediately thought of the GTVA as an enemy. A few months later the SA captured Aken Bosch but, for the purposes of this discussion their communication was extremely crude. The SA didn’t understand Bosch but their ships were still being destroyed so they sent in a Sathanas to stop the attacks on their ships. Unfortunately it was destroyed, the Shivans were extremely angry at the Murder of 30,000 Shivans so they decided to send in a small portion of their fleet (80 Sathanes) to eliminate the GTVA entirely. At this time they managed to speak to and understand Bosch , Bosch told them about the LF and why we attacked them. The Shivans held an emergency meeting and decided that instead of wasting valuable resources going through all of their systems back to their homeworld where their fleet was. So they decided that, instead of wasting all of that energy they would use the Capella star as a Slingshot to get back to their Homeworld, in the process creating a nebula for the GTVA to take energy from as a peace offering.

Q. Why were the GTVA ships attacked as they were evacuating Capella?
A. The attackers were rebels and relatives of Shivans killed during the war

Q. Why was the Bastion attacked?
A. The attackers were rebels and relatives of Shivans killed during the war

Q. What happened to Bosch
A. He was on one of the Cain class cruisers on the way to Vega, but was destroyed.

Flames welcome :)

EDIT: Q. Anything else
A. Its because they're aliens :smash:
Last edited by Kietotheworld on Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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it wraps up well, but its not quite... real. no flames from me, good peice of work, if unneeded. :)

although my theory is more along the lines 'the shivans attacked us for a reason, although only about 10 people in the entire GTVA know about it. the reason is ---THIS TEXT HAS BEEN CLASSIFIED LEVEL OMEGA. ONLY PERSONS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED BY THE GTBS PARTHENON AND THE SPECIAL OPERATIONS TASKFLEET ARE AUTHORIZED TO VEIW THIS TEXT---

:badgrin: guess, go ahead, GUESS!!! :razz:

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We keep allpying the Anthropromprphic Fallacy to shivans. ie: the fact that they would think just like we do. They don't. Or at least we can't assume they do. Therefore anything tahs is supposed to be correct because it seems logical, immediately makes it flawed.

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I concur with Hippo. The Shivans being completely understandable creatures who think like humans is, well, an anticlimax to say the least.

Although if you replaced 'Shivans' with some other less mysterious race (like if the Vasudans had appeared out of nowhere instead of the Shivans...) then that's a decent theory. But not a Shivan one.
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me too. i think the shivans would be more like a combination of Uber-Ants and the Borg, really. all are kinda 'linked' ot the consiousness, and thus there is unity and order-following, etc, so they work (like ants) to get anything done. but still, we know next to nothing of the shivans, so theres no way to make a good theory.

Re: Shivan Theory

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Nope, because it's based on something contrary to a known fact - namely that the Rakshasa fired first. (if you're wondering where the footage came from? - black box transmitted when the ship was destroyed or ejected in an escape pod)

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I actually liked Stryke9's idea from a while ago... But i stand by my thought that rationality and Anthropromorphism can NOT be applied to shivans...

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Rakshasa, thank you!
How did the escape pod get out of the ship and that far away so soon then. Don't forget the shot of the emerging Rakshasa was from quite far away from the cruiser. And it was there before the Rakshasa emerged from subspace.

P.S. Come on people say your own theories!

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ok :razz:

im thinking that the shivans are holding a grudge-type-thing. im betting that the old GTI knew about them well before their first attack at Ross 128, and it was the GTI who provoked the shivans. then, the shivans thought that all terrans were essentially terrans, they dont think in 'factions' or 'teams'. in their minds (or whatever they have), they were attacked by terrans, so they will destroy terrans.

the problem with this theory is that 'revenge' is likely unknown to shivans. but then again...
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