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The Governator and others rebel
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:07 pm
by pyro-manic
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4400534.stm
Nine north-eastern states are poised to sign an agreement setting Kyoto-style legal limits on greenhouse gas emissions from power stations.
American highway
California is hoping to cut emissions from cars by 30%
New York and New Jersey are among these rebel states.
And in California, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is forging ahead with legislation to cut emissions from cars by 30% within a decade.
This could transform the motor industry.
Meanwhile, 187 mayors from US towns and cities, representing 40 million people, have pledged to adopt Kyoto targets for reducing greenhouse gases.
Some leading American transnational firms are also demanding mandatory cuts in CO2 so that they are not isolated as the developed world moves towards a low-carbon economy.
It is all happening despite President Bush's outright rejection of the Kyoto climate protocol, which he said would cost American jobs.
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:46 pm
by karajorma
Looks like the lower levels of government are finally realising what a complete dick Bush is being about climate change.
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:52 pm
by aldo
Och, there was me hoping Arnie had picked up a chaingun, donned sunglasses and began marching on the Whitehouse.......
Anyways, glad to see some people still have their sanity and common sense.
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:52 pm
by Goober5000
To be fair it was Congress which rejected Kyoto, under the Clinton administration. All Bush did was "unsign" it. Perhaps adding insult to injury, but it was nothing more than a symbolic act.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:42 pm
by ngtm1r
:/ I like Arnie, he's trying to do good things for California. But I don't think he's going to win.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:52 pm
by Top Gun
I don't see it so much as "rebelling" as I see it as an example of the federal system in action. Just because the federal government chose not to abide by the Kyoto Protocol doesn't prevent any single state from imposing whatever restrictions they like on environmental conditions, as these governors are showing. If they can successfully uphold these regulations without any overly severe economic burdens, more power to them. It just makes the rest of our air that much cleaner.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:14 am
by Robo
How weird, I just finished watching Terminator 3 on Channel 5
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:25 am
by Goober5000
Top Gun wrote:I don't see it so much as "rebelling" as I see it as an example of the federal system in action. Just because the federal government chose not to abide by the Kyoto Protocol doesn't prevent any single state from imposing whatever restrictions they like on environmental conditions, as these governors are showing.
Precisely. That's the beauty of the federal system.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:25 am
by Stryker
Now imagine this case, except the Federal Government did pretty much nothing except keep a standing military and enforce the laws, of which there were very few and clear (see the Ten Commandments for a good idea of what these laws were), and you'll start to get a picture of what the US was like pre-Civil War. With the exception of slavery, you have to admit it would have been a heck of a lot easier to live your life without a government agency or twenty breathing down your back.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:25 am
by Goober5000
Stryker wrote:Now imagine this case, except the Federal Government did pretty much nothing except keep a standing military and enforce the laws, of which there were very few and clear (see the Ten Commandments for a good idea of what these laws were), and you'll start to get a picture of what the US was like pre-Civil War. With the exception of slavery, you have to admit it would have been a heck of a lot easier to live your life without a government agency or twenty breathing down your back.
Very true.
That's why I'm a libertarian.
