Sectorgame

I've just now, today, after 30 days playing been able to afford a cruiser.

But this has been bugging me for days besides, how in the hell do you turkey's make such massive amounts of money in this game so as to make losing this 3.75mil Celestis of mine look like so much oops. If I were to lose it, I would probably quit, because there is no way I could make that much again.

You can make money faster with cruisers. Plus when your in a corp, you often make heaps much more money.
A merc corp for example could hunt a couple of those bounties down. With some earning 100+ mill and splitting it between the gang who helped and the rest to the corp, there isn't really much to starve on.

Plus higher level missions and high end trade routes, can make you a few million isk an hour.

It's all about capabilities and effort. Corps help alot though. With free access to certain items you don't have to pay for every little thing, which means more spare pocket money.

I am teh fayle then, becuase I'll never join a corp that requires me to travel low sec space regularly. I'm sorry, but that time I got bushwhacked coming out of the gate spooked me on it. Those creeps who get their jollies ruining others game can just go jump off a VERY tall cliff.

It looks like I'm stuck mining Azure Plagioclase. I know what you're going to say, that it's all part of the game, but I've lost 5 ships and been podded once already and I've only been playing for 30 days. Each of those 5 ships was a serious blow to my character and I had to virtually start over each time.

I had to get help on my first lvl 2 mission(i quite the 2nd one) and could do little but stare in awe as the kind person that helped me mopped the floor with the rogue drones in minutes that I could barely scratch after trying for an hour.(I killed one, lost my ship to his buddies and was going to quit, but Suze Rain said he'd help and boy, did he ever)

I have resigned myself to being a JOAT miner, but I absolutely will not spend any length of time anywhere below 0.5, the risk to me is too damn high.

There are still plenty of people running solo, you just have to be good at it.

Plus with a corp, you'd have a severely large escort and pre-planned routes to take into low-sec space. Would'nt you like to get back at those camping bastards?

Always check your map before traveling low-sec space. Check the 'amount of ships destroyed in last hour', usually gives a good indication what's waiting for you on the other side.

i got a 2nd level implant doing a really simple agent mission. sold it for a good 7.5mil. i also got a number of blueprints and people have bought a bunch of my stuff.

You'll find quite a lot of corps, like SGame, have most of their players in safe sectors unless absolutely required, and that, when they are not in safe sectors, 2 cruisers and a couple of Battleships will be a lot safer than a single player on their own.
We've lost ships worth 20Mill+ to other players, and that was in a safe sector, but nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Play the market, and mine like the devil, this is also where being a part of a Corp helps, as, at least in the case of SG, we put 33% into the corp and split the rest between the people who were mining, unless it's a specific Corp mining op. If you're hauling with a couple of mining barges getting Omber or Jaspet, that can mean an awful lot of money (I've made 10Mill+ from one before).

Also, because of those big mining ops, you can often just get someone in the corp to build you a ship from Blueprints, all you have to do is get the materials, many of which can be mined just about anywhere for free I can build Amarr Executioner Frigates, and never have to leave safe sectors for the material.

The final advantage of corps is the simple matter of having players who are far more experienced than you are, giving you advice and cover, I learnt far far more from Hunter and Shadow than I would have from going solo.

Piracy is not ruining the game. It is part of the game. Otherwise there would be no low sec space.

Thing is, not everyone will want to play the game the same way as you, that is both the bonus and the curse of MMOs.

Last night, someone tried to lock onto my Barge whilst I was mining in 1.0 space, they were flying a stealth bomber. When someone tries to lock onto you though, theres no point relying on Concord or anyone else, always be aware of who's in vicinity and be prepared to warp out fast if you need to, pride will get you killed.

Choose weapons carefully, and training. don't try to cover every single base at once, if you are a miner, train mining, if you are a fighter, train fighting, but don't try to do them both at once, or you'll only be mediocre at both.

I'll admit to being a cautious player, but I've only ever lost an Omen, and that was to Rats. I'll lose more over time, no doubt, but I get far more narked at Ore thieves than player Pirates, but even they have to travel into 0.4 sometimes, and when they do, they have to be about 5 times as careful as any other player

I haven't run into Ore Thieves yet, course i'm not mining anything anyone would want...

I try to be as unobtrusive as possible, staying out of the way as much as possible. This is why I don't join a corp, I don't want someone relying on me for something, because sure as time marches on I will screw up and let them down. It always has happened, it always will. The only way I don't fail is to set exceedingly low goals for myself.

Pathetic.

Life is about taking risks. Joining a corporation requires no special skills. You never know what could happen. No one will care much if you make a mistake. People will only care if you hate on them and do things to them deliberately.

Your not gonna enjoy anything that way. In the end, who cares? ITS A GAME. You can't fail, and any mistakes you make you learn from. I've made s### loads of mistakes in EVE which have cost me millions upon millions, and still even today I make mistakes in the heat of the moment!

Hunter wrote:Pathetic.

I never claimed to be anything else.

Heh, one of members went into combat in a 30 million ISK ship and come out in an Egg a few days ago. We take the mickey a bit, but then, we also got together and helped him mine enough for a new ship.

When you join a corp, you suddenly find out that what you were doing before was, quite literally, the very tip of the Eve iceberg.

Don't worry about losing ships. It happens. Obviously, try not to, but, at the end of the day, it WILL happen. Running away is an option, every ship from an Executioner to a Megathron has had to run away from a fight from time to time

One little hint is, if you are mining in rat-infested space, set your autopilot for the next system. If rats are becoming a problem, hit the autopilot and go, theres ore everywhere you don't actually have to face rats unless you are after Zydrine or Megacyte, since you can get every other basic Ore in pirate-less 1.0 and 0.9 sectors if you scout around, once again, a corp can help you there

Oh yes, and practically every rat I've killed has been behind me. Why? Because the first thing I do when I come across rats is run away from them firing backwards. I'm not proud, but I am still alive

I think what it comes down to is this:

I HATE asking for help. If I can't do it myself, I will quit before I ask for help. I feel that if I can't do it myself, I've made an error somewhere and it's my fault, and therefore my responsibility to correct the fault. Even if it means doing scutwork until I can do it.

Flipside wrote:Oh yes, and practically every rat I've killed has been behind me. Why? Because the first thing I do when I come across rats is run away from them firing backwards. I'm not proud, but I am still alive

Thats pretty much how you have to do level 4s. Align with something and pray your tank holds. Damn near lost a Tempest today to a pair of 1.75mil bounty Megathrons. Damn 1400s cant hit for s### when the target is orbiting at 5k.

*stares gape jawed at Thorn*

I couldn't kill 1 50,000 bounty and you're killing 2 1.75 mill bounties at once?

I think I'm playing the wrong game....I mean, what in hell is the point? I'll never be able to do that.