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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:55 pm
by karajorma
I'm not much of a table modder. So unless it's a reasonably obvious problem I'd have trouble fixing it quickly.

I'm willing to take a look though.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:59 pm
by Snail
Should someone create .tbm's for the Archangel?

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:27 am
by ghhyrd
.tbm's? Oh great, another file type that I have no idea about. What is that?
By the way... Can't you attach files to messages in this forum?

Or should I send you the files through Email Karajorma?

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:56 pm
by karajorma
If you want to send the email to [email protected] I'll take a look at it :)

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:35 pm
by ghhyrd
I have sent the email! get it or else!

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:08 pm
by karajorma
I got it. I'll take a look in a sec

EDIT : Do you have a link to the archangel? Is that the only mod you're using?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:00 pm
by ghhyrd
Sure, this is where I got it. In dact, this is where I get almost all of my mods. By the way, the answer to your other question is, HOLY DRIBBLE-POOP! dosent it say what mods I am using in the tables that I sent you?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:21 pm
by karajorma
Yeah but I'm coming down with a cold and I'm not going to run FS2 20 times stopping each time to add the mod that is missing.

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:35 pm
by ghhyrd
Oooh, nasty. Get well soon, and the mods are;
GTI Lycaon
GTD Raynor
GTCa Warlock
GTDn Archangel
The 'Terran' Knososs reskin
GVI Cheops
SSD Diabolo
The Terran knososs and the archangel however both contain new thingies such as textures and crap.

All of these downloads (I think) were taken from the F2S website on sectorgame here.

If I have missed out any of the mods they will be listed in Ships.tbl (all I have is new ships pretty much)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:10 pm
by Snail
.tbms add to the table without raising the size, they're easier to install, just plonk them in a mod folder, as opposed to all the tedious(?) cutting and pasting that is required for normal .tbls. Unfortunately you can't see table data through Fred 2 using .tbms.

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:49 pm
by karajorma
Actually that's been fixed. Will be in the latest CVS and next 3.6.9 RC candidate :)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:47 pm
by ghhyrd
So how has the problem (and the cold) analyzing been going Karajorma?

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:18 am
by karajorma
I've recovered now. I'll look at the problem tomorrow.

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:11 am
by ghhyrd
That is good to hear! (about both)

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:37 pm
by karajorma
Well there's nothing wrong with your table entry for the Archangel. It worked perfectly for me in both debug and release builds.

The problem lies with one of your other models.

My suggest is that you put aside your ships table and use tbm files instead. Just put the ships.tbl where FS2 can't find it and try installing this file to your tables folder instead.

Now try using FRED to make a mission with just the Archangel and a player ship in it. Should work fine. Use the archangel TBM as a guide on how to make them for all the other mods you have and you should soon be able to discover which one is the culprit.