I just saw T4, it was good for simple reasons of mass robot-age - even if the story was somewhat paper-thin.

It's a Terminator movie, they're not about story.

ngtm1r wrote:It's a Terminator movie, they're not about story.

Exactly

Although I couldn't help but notice that everyone in the post-apocalyptic future has no time to shave, yet manages to maintain perfect pearly-white incisors and (in the case of Moon Bloodgood) remove body hair. Albeit i'm more annoyed they cut the gratuitious tits scene.

Funny. Alessia said something about how everyone could still shave in Battlefield Earth.

(Yes, we watched Battlefield Earth, along with all our friends, it was fun to snark at.)

I've seen Star Trek, and will go and see Transformers assuming it's any good.

I saw Transformers (2, obv) yesterday. It's both simultaneously the worst and best film I've seen this year - the action sequences are explodey-good (albeit the robot models are so detailed it's very hard to understand what the hell is going on), but anything which a) involves speaking or b) involves the hideously racist stereotype robots (yes, they have gold teeth, fight each other a lot and are illiterate - and somehow have what could best be described as an 'african american' accent) can go straight in the bin.

Some people are just way to critical -_- I think by merely associating those 2 robots with african americans shows what kind of stereotypes you set out with, rather than what they were intended as. But that's just me.

Really enjoyed Terminator.
Story and characters were decent enough to support the action, acting was great except for the batman-voice.

I _really_ liked some of the little details they put in the terminator-POV scenes. How the robo-bike thing for example was drawing distance estimate lines when sliding under the exploding truck thing, and the T800 view was drawing on 3d space tracking points on stuff in view. It felt like a slightly more primitive version of the terminator POV seen in T2, which was really cool. You could tell it had been done by someone who had a clue how such systems might work rather than your average hollywood robo-view which tends to just label people it recognises and blatantly engages various modes that conveniently tell you exactly how the robot is 'feeling'. :\

Overall I could definitely pick apart a few plot holes and the like, but the fact is that I just don't want to because it did everything else about the machines so well.

The other cool thing was how they didn't try to radically alter the terminator universe with the movie the way I was afraid they would. They just told an action story inside that universe. I was worried for a while about that stupid signal-that-turns-machines-off thing, because it implied absolutely no processing ability on the part of the machines that were disabled by it, so I was quite happy when it came out that the machines were just 'faking it', showing the resistance what they wanted to see in order to risk a major attack.

Bit of a shame they didn't keep the T-600s as the rubber skinned poor attempts at infiltrator machines seen in the Sarah Connor Chronicles and mentioned in the original terminator, but oh well.

Matthew wrote:Some people are just way to critical -_- I think by merely associating those 2 robots with african americans shows what kind of stereotypes you set out with, rather than what they were intended as. But that's just me.

It's pretty hard not to associate when it's a modern day version of a minstrel show. Being aware of stereotypes doesn't mean you hold them, y'know - I'm also aware I should be a ginger, kilt-wearing alcoholic.

Vasudan Admiral wrote: Bit of a shame they didn't keep the T-600s as the rubber skinned poor attempts at infiltrator machines seen in the Sarah Connor Chronicles and mentioned in the original terminator, but oh well.

I think they did, sort of - just that the rubber skin had degraded and decomposed on the only 'infiltrator-ish' model you see in the movie (the one killed by Reese).

Vasudan Admiral wrote:Bit of a shame they didn't keep the T-600s as the rubber skinned poor attempts at infiltrator machines seen in the Sarah Connor Chronicles and mentioned in the original terminator, but oh well.

They did. It's just that by the time of the movie Skynet had moved on from the T-600 and began development on the T-800 because it had realised that people weren't being fooled by T-600.

So the T-600s were relegated to menial jobs around Skynet or simply stalking around trying to kill things without worrying much about infiltration.

Well just saw Transformers: RotF yesterday, man that s### was awesome. Tons better imo than T4 Salvation.

Falcon wrote:Well just saw Transformers: RotF yesterday, man that s### was awesome. Tons better imo than T4 Salvation.

It was a damn good movie, yeah. I have yet to see Terminator Salvation, but I don't see how that'll be better than Transformers RotF.

I still keep reading that as 'Return of the Jedi'...