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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:34 am
by Taristin
They have the potential to rebel against us :{

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:46 am
by Flipside
'My Teeth! They're turning on me!!!'

Much of it is 'fear of the new', we all say 'We don't know the long term effects' or words to that effect, but tend to ignore the fact that until the technology has been used long-term, we are never going to find out...

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:55 am
by Taristin
I think in this case, its more that people fear that it could be used as a tool to keep people in line. Imagine if bloodscrubbing nanos were used to prevent or limit the blood flow in a person because he dissented with the authority in charge.



Of course this is all conspiritorial, and I can see that it wouldnt be allowed to happen, but still. :p

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:46 am
by Flipside
Thing is though, if you can think of that kind of idea, then so can anyone else. Whether caused through deliberate act or malfunction, to start relying on technology to that massive a degree, that we allow it into our own cellular structure, is a hell of a leap.

Especially when you consider that almost every technical endevour usually needs to fail once for the problems to be identified.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:57 am
by ngtm1r
Flipside wrote:Thing is though, if you can think of that kind of idea, then so can anyone else.
That's a self-defeating argument, you realize...since it's precisely because anyone can think of it that it would not be allowed to happen. :p

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:09 am
by Flipside
hehehe True, Nanites would probably be hard wired with encrypted checksums and self-terminating code anyway, but you'd need something along the lines of Asimov's idea that, not only did the program use the rules, but, in some way, the program was incapable of functioning without those rules in place.

Nanites would represent the ultimate in Mass production, you would have to be certain that the tiniest defect would cause the Nanite to shut down, and possibly the one that built it.

I'm really just rambling on here, but one last thought occured to me..

I was amazed how unsurprised I was when I considered the possibility of people protesting for 'Rights for Nanites' if they found out about the self terminating code....


Edit : better to have Spam on the implications of Nanites than the Spam that started the thread I guess ;)

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:50 am
by aldo
ngtm1r wrote:
Flipside wrote:Thing is though, if you can think of that kind of idea, then so can anyone else.
That's a self-defeating argument, you realize...since it's precisely because anyone can think of it that it would not be allowed to happen. :p
If only humans made perfect things.....

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:46 pm
by Martinus
Has anyone seen the new method of authentication someone proposed?

Basically you have a 3x3 grid of pictures of fluffy bunnies and kittens. You make the person signing up click the pictures of kittens only in the grid.

Seems bots do not have it in their cold, logical hearts to discern the difference between your average lettuce muncher and a small feline. :)

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:56 am
by Grug
Martinus wrote:Has anyone seen the new method of authentication someone proposed?

Basically you have a 3x3 grid of pictures of fluffy bunnies and kittens. You make the person signing up click the pictures of kittens only in the grid.

Seems bots do not have it in their cold, logical hearts to discern the difference between your average lettuce muncher and a small feline. :)
That sound pretty cool. :D

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:20 am
by Goober5000
Martinus wrote:Has anyone seen the new method of authentication someone proposed?

Basically you have a 3x3 grid of pictures of fluffy bunnies and kittens. You make the person signing up click the pictures of kittens only in the grid.

Seems bots do not have it in their cold, logical hearts to discern the difference between your average lettuce muncher and a small feline. :)
I've seen those, and they are cool, but some of the morons using it have started doing stupid stuff like adding baby foxes that look exactly like kittens. (Obviously if you select those you get it wrong.)