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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:01 pm
by Moonsword
Good luck, Benny and fare thee well.
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:40 pm
by Black Wolf
karajorma wrote:
My problem with Oprah is not that she's screwing up women's expectations its that she's screwing things up for the guys who hear that stuff (often second hand) and believe it to be true.
Life gets easier when you realise that women don't actually want what they claim they do. Watch any romantic movie and you'll form the impression that the way to get a girl is do big romantic things all the time until you win her heart. Try it in real life and you'll get yourelf arrested for stalking.
Big romantic gestures only work after she's into you.
Indeed. But to hear anyone say it is rare. For that, you deserve respect. Hell, I read my own thoughts when reading your post, but I'd never say it for fear of being called sexist or whatever. The straightforward truths of the world are being silenced more and more under a mound of daytime TV and the quasi romantic pretentiousness that Hollywood routinely churns out. It's refreshing to hear someone willing to say these sorts of things I guess.
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:10 pm
by Flipside
It's a 'control' thing. Once somebody feels in control of a situation, it loses their interest.
Never hand control to anyone but yourself
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:45 pm
by Kopax
karajorma wrote:
Why haven't you talked if you like her so much?
Fear of rejection really. I consider her out my league too, ya know when a nerd boy likes some popular girl, everybody laughs?
And when it comes to culture, I know absolutely nothing.
And I know that Flipside, I just can't motivate myself.
You should be a psychologist for what you just said too, hehe. Ownage. Oprah is like a sweaping plague of idealization, indeed.
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:36 pm
by Taristin
Kopax wrote:
And when it comes to culture, I know absolutely nothing.
Meh... Popular culture sucks... It's increasingly hard to meet people you have things in common with when you:
Don't listen to Rap/Pop/mainstream-rock Music
Don't do the whole 'drugs and alcohol' (and smoking) scene
and a few others, that I either can't think of, or don't feel like mentioning...
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:47 pm
by Flipside
Raa wrote:Kopax wrote:
And when it comes to culture, I know absolutely nothing.
Meh... Popular culture sucks... It's increasingly hard to meet people you have things in common with when you:
Don't listen to Rap/Pop/mainstream-rock Music
Don't do the whole 'drugs and alcohol' (and smoking) scene
and a few others, that I either can't think of, or don't feel like mentioning...
Hehe, I wonder how many girls are sitting around saying
exactly the same thing when they aren't hanging out with their friends and trying to fit in and be fashionable?
Believe or not, every single person at your school is utterly terrified that they aren't 'up to date' or 'popular'. Bear that in mind and they can be quite an education to watch
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 11:09 pm
by Hammer
yeah, thats pretty much right, only reason we didnt care is cuz we were bigger than everyone by at least 6 inches and 40 pounds, so they thought twice about sayin stuff to us
Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:28 am
by karajorma
Black Wolf wrote:Indeed. But to hear anyone say it is rare. For that, you deserve respect. Hell, I read my own thoughts when reading your post, but I'd never say it for fear of being called sexist or whatever. The straightforward truths of the world are being silenced more and more under a mound of daytime TV and the quasi romantic pretentiousness that Hollywood routinely churns out. It's refreshing to hear someone willing to say these sorts of things I guess.
There are a few others who do speak the truth the way they see it but you're right that even most of the male relationship advisors tend to give the same false femanine spin on things.
It's rather sad cause all that stuff seldom helps much at all.
Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:01 am
by kasperl
About the pop culture thing: The reason I don't go to pubs is that I can't stand smoke. Now, that miight be solved by moving to Ireland, or waiting another 5 years, but still. And too loud music is a no-no too. So I'm stuck inside. I hate it.
EDIT: Forgot to mention: I rarely drink to get drunk, and I have almost never drink more then 3 glasses a night. Hell, more then one means it's a special thing somehow.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:10 am
by liberator
I can't really contribute anything useful, as I tend to empty rooms just by going in and sitting down. No one in my life, that I can remember, has ever voluntarily spent any time with me just because they could. So somewhere along the way I just stopped trying and now spend all of my time alone. It's not so bad really, you just have to get used to the voices, they never actually say anything, they just murmur unintelligably.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:52 am
by Taristin
...Quasimoto? You can't be that bad... Obviously you have very low self esteem, but c'mon...
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:54 am
by liberator
No really, I do. What's worse, I don't really care anymore one way or the other.
You blokes and the guys at HLP are the only people I have casual contact with.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:45 am
by Kopax
You remind me of that C28591259812751 or whatever guy that used to frequent HLP, what happened to him anyhow?
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:56 am
by Hippo
Evaporation?
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:54 am
by Flipside
He still posts, but he shortened his name to C914, but he does still lurk around