Sectorgame

Will wait and see how Stargate Universe turns out.

Hunter wrote:Will wait and see how Stargate Universe turns out.

If it's anything like the latter half of SG1, they'll (I don't watch the show, I'm assuming that there's a team) kill off whichever uber-powerful antagonist(s) that they're currently being overwhelmed by, and then discover that Satan and his minions, having recently entered Terran space, are bent on destroying humanity for kicks. And then there will be a meta-physical arc involving mass ascension, regardless of the fact that it was shown as being difficult to attain. [/rage]

I ewas thinking about SG1, as it happens.

Oh right, you guys just don't like anything where something else remotely similar has been done.

Surely it can't be any worse than you guys are making the remake out to be?

The remake was actually good until somewhere in Season 3.

The original just makes you want to scream.

What can I say I get bored >.>

I must admit, it would be nice to see some more upbeat sci-fi emerging, it's all tending to be very doom and gloomy these days.

Yeah BSG could get really angst at times. I guess genocide'll do that though....

edit: thinking about it, which series recently was upbeat ie; wasn't about the end of the world/galaxy/universe etc ?

I think probably since Babylon 5, sci-fi has tended to head in that direction, it was the first non computer-game media to centre more on entire ships with hundreds of people being destroyed and less on 'Battle of Britain in Space' type combat, and added that 'hopeless battle against unstoppable enemies' element.

I'm not sure which came First, FS1 or B5, I think it was B5, but either way, from that point outwards, sci-fi makers seemed to realise that unparalleled loss of life sells...

In truth BSG is just 'bigger and better', B5 lost a few planets, Firefly lost an entire army, so BSG was a good excuse to indulge in some one-upmanship..

"Ha, our series wiped out an entire race!'...

While I do appreciate that sort of storytelling in general (note that I haven't yet seen any of BSG), I think that sort of sentiment is why I always preferred Star Trek the most out of the various sci-fi franchises. When you look past the frequent cheese, the rampant technobabble, and the varying levels of quality throughout its various incarnations, the core message is always that of a humankind that's managed to largely move past its petty squabbles of the past and build a society that's truly worth living in. It's Gene Roddenberry's way of saying to the world, "Yeah, I know things are really messed up right now, and they'll probably get even worse somewhere down the line, but if we can tough it out, we'll get to a point where we can do some real good in the world that we live in." Unrealistically optimistic and old-fashioned, perhaps, but in general, I think I'd rather cling to that dream than immerse myself in the same sort of crap that we have to deal with here and now.

I always find the removal of things like jealousy, anger, spite, etc as in Star Trek removes the very humanity and thus the dramatical value of a show.

Plus ST is the cheesiest of all cheese.

I never noticed the parralels of the BSG/B5 perpectual reoccurance/breaking the cycle theme before.

CamInHead wrote:Plus ST is the cheesiest of all cheese.

I never noticed the parralels of the BSG/B5 perpectual reoccurance/breaking the cycle theme before.

It's a pretty ubiquitous theme, I think. Even the Mayans did it, IIRC.

Well, current world finance situations will probably see an increase in more 'upbeat' shows anyway, no-one wants to watch a gloomy program in the middle of a depression.

Well, sadly, I think Universe is going for gloomy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU1iVbZO8ms