I seem to be the poster child for flame bait at HLP though, since 95% of the population are far more liberal than me. I mean I can count on one hand the number of "conservatives" that post regularly.

I really don't know the difference between a Liberal and a conservative. And I think your unbanned, cause Kaz is.

He used the term "right to genital integrity." You can't make this stuff up.

WeatherOp wrote:I really don't know the difference between a Liberal and a conservative. And I think your unbanned, cause Kaz is.

shazaam is only banned from the main HL forums

Yeah, I PMed Kal and he said the term is indefinate but will start at a week. How do I put Kaz on my personal ignore list so I don't have to read to his dren.

liberator wrote:Yeah, I PMed Kal and he said the term is indefinate but will start at a week. How do I put Kaz on my personal ignore list so I don't have to read to his dren.

Heh, youve never used it before? The ignore list (to me) is one of the most valuable feature of a bulletin board.

MatthewPapa's Ignore List (I suggest you guys add these people to yours too)

Kietotheworld
Cobra
pecenipicek
Woolie Wool
Kazan
Drew
Grug
Holy Imperial Gloriano
High Max
Hellraiser

Forum browsing is a lot better this way!

Kaz is the only one of those that I can't tolerate any longer.

Oh. my. god.

Sorry Kazan is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her.

That happened when I tried to add him to my ignore list...

Cause of Ferrium...? heh.

My Ignore list is only Tin Can and Drew......

I can ignore Kazan easy enough. His threads bore me anyway

WeatherOp wrote:I really don't know the difference between a Liberal and a conservative.

Conservative; generally means a preference to uphold traditional values and resistant to change (particularly social change). Is more tended towards a laissez-faire attitude to government (I believe; definitions differ - IIRC is usually against extensive welfare state provisions). Politically right-wing.
Goog le definitions

Liberal; Favours reform and progressive change, particuarly social. Generally advocates civil rights at the expense of the state; normally supports state welfare. More left wing. Commonly used as a reference for supporters of the American democratic party, although that is a misnomer.
Google definitions

Generalisation is; conservatives wish to preserve the current social order, liberals wish to change it progressively. Conservatives usually believe that such change is in some way damaging to society (often societies morals), liberals believe that the change is necessary to improve society and remove inequalities.

Worth noting that neither implies -as is sometimes suggested at HLP threads - religious beliefs.

What I don't get is why you were banned for the same term he was, Liberator. It's like the admins aren't even bothering to read the content of your respective posts; if they see you arguing, off you both go. In the thread in question, which I just got around to reading today, you were being very courteous, while he was being his usual dickface self. It just doesn't seem fair. I also like how, in one thread, I make one comment that *might* be construed as a flame, and people make almost as big of a deal as his twenty or so flame posts before my one. Who has the bigger leeway here?

Top Gun wrote:What I don't get is why you were banned for the same term he was, Liberator. It's like the admins aren't even bothering to read the content of your respective posts; if they see you arguing, off you both go. In the thread in question, which I just got around to reading today, you were being very courteous, while he was being his usual dickface self. It just doesn't seem fair. I also like how, in one thread, I make one comment that *might* be construed as a flame, and people make almost as big of a deal as his twenty or so flame posts before my one. Who has the bigger leeway here?

Kaz, I thought you were going away to deflate and come back refreshed with a new outlook and be a "Newer, Better" Kazan. But, so far as I can see, you are just rerunning the same old crap over and over again. You've been back less than a week and already you're arguing that religion is evil and that abortion is the greatest thing since sliced bread. You haven't changed a bit and that disturbs me a bit.

('rerunning the same old crap', also deliberately(?) misrepresenting the arguement over abortion; also can be considered inflammatory by immediately placing any blame for subsequent flameage on Kazan. Surely you were aware you'd piss him off?)

Exactly my point Deepblue. I don't discount that evolution takes place, I just draw a line that when people start ranting about how it is the reason we are all here. We are here because we are created beings.

(key word being 'ranting')

However what it sounds like you are after, however, is not a land where all people can live freely and strive toward a higher purpose(however they happen to derive it), but a place where sheeple can act like the base creatures you claim we evolved from.

(Effectively calling him a sheep; comparing someone to an animal is usually considered derogatory)

All I see is a bunch of hormone driven cretins who don't want responsibility for the results of their actions doing everything they can to fix it so they can rut around like the buck deer in the spring.

(can be considered an insulting attack on the opposite side)

Kazan definition of better person:

overly intellectual
loud mouthed
planetary sized ego

Somebody lock this please.

Probably did the business, though.

That's why. You began to move towards insulting his side of the arguement and claiming moral superiority; at best it was going to be inflammatory, at worst insulting.

There's no way that last comment wasn't insulting. Pretty cowardly to make it and then ask for the thread to be closed too.

Sorry Top Gun but you need to be fair about it. Just cause he's on your side doesn't make Lib right.

You don't see me defending Kazan just cause I happen to mostly agree with him do you?

Meh

I agree that the last one was OTT, but it was slightly tongue in cheek(though true), or so I thought. I can only blame myself though.

I'm trying to be fair about it, and my statement wasn't just because I agree with Liberator on some of the issues in question. If you look at the whole picture, Kazan threw at least ten times as much **** in that thread as Lib did, but they received equal punishments.

Maybe it's my own personal bias. Kazan's the first person I've run into online that, were I to come across him in real life, I would plant my fist square on the bridge of his nose, no questions asked.