WeatherOp wrote:Ok I Will. How are the sreenshots? I know, not that good looking, but just shows off the beams and stuff.

changed the beam turret locations (or added more) eh ?

MAX is easy, if you like having to flip through a dozen different menus to get the tool you need. It's needlessly complicated for the beginning modeller. Sure it's powerful, they use it in feature films. But it's the single most intimidating piece of software I've ever looked at.

They are usually intuitively placed toolbars, though. And if he follows the tutorial for making a low poly space ship, he'll get everything he needs, just about.

liberator wrote:MAX is easy, if you like having to flip through a dozen different menus to get the tool you need. It's needlessly complicated for the beginning modeller. Sure it's powerful, they use it in feature films. But it's the single most intimidating piece of software I've ever looked at.

Yeah, and i can say the exact same thing about Truespace. They're DIFFERENT. They're both learnable, it just depends on what your aims are.

I've used TS for about 2 years, and I can honestly say I really don't know what I'm doing in it.

Raa wrote:They are usually intuitively placed toolbars, though. And if he follows the tutorial for making a low poly space ship, he'll get everything he needs, just about.

I tried that once. It made about as much sense as throwing a brand new Geforce 6800 in the trash when it's still in the box. Maybe, I'm not meant to learn how to model. That's a dumb thought though since I can bang around in Blender everyonce in a while and come up with something decent. I've been told I use too many extrusions however. The most frustrating part is I can't figure out how to get a material/texture assigned to the model once I've got the geometry banged out.

What tutorial did you use? If you can't figure out Max, then you're using the wrong tut. It's...incredibly simple.

The included one with GMax.

Why isn't it simple like a simple pressing "E" to extrude or "S" to scale?

I don't have a problem with it being difficult. But, if the whole point of the program is to make models, shouldn't it stand to reason that it should be fairly intuitive for the uninitiated instead of having to follow a half-dozen tutorials.

It shouldn't be like programming an OS to learn how to make a model composed of 5 cubes and a half-dozen pyramids.

My biggest gripe is the multiple viewports. In Blender, it's so simple matter to switch back and forth between different views that you don't need 4 different views at once. MAX should be simple enough for newbies(me) and get good output quickly. I have never once been able to get good output from MAX after spending hours trying to do something. It so big and powerful that it's unweildy for the unskilled.

Personally i stick with blender due to it's speed and ease of use, flexability and stability. It's really a pleasure to model stuff with it. It can do as much or as little as you want it to in any direction.
It took me one tutorial to get the hang of it, which for me at least, is very impressive considering it took about 5 for rudimentary TS knowledge.

It really does all come down to personal taste tho, no question.

liberator wrote:The included one with GMax.

Why isn't it simple like a simple pressing "E" to extrude or "S" to scale?

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My biggest gripe is the multiple viewports. In Blender, it's so simple matter to switch back and forth between different views that you don't need 4 different views at once. MAX should be simple enough for newbies(me) and get good output quickly. I have never once been able to get good output from MAX after spending hours trying to do something. It so big and powerful that it's unweildy for the unskilled.

Because 'S' is the snap tool, which comes in very handy. And it isn't difficult to click the extrude button.

Also, the multiple viewports thing is a moot point too. P for perspective, B for botom, F for front, L for left etc...

I have decided not to download 3DS max, since I have dial up and the file is too big. I'll just download blender instead.

and Liberator I have to ask Alabama or Auburn?

Ha. All your arguing is clearly useless.

I am the Ultimate 3D N00b, and I use Cinema 4D. I'm lucky if I create something more then two hundred polys, and forget texturing.

So you ALL have better programs then me. Hahaha...wait, what?

Raa wrote:Because 'S' is the snap tool, which comes in very handy.

What the hell does snap do?

Many many things.

Elucidate...