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The random Babylon 5 vomiting thread

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:43 am
by Hunter
Apparently someone did a re-render of some original effects scene from the show. It's not a REMASTER, just a re-render using the maximum quality available. It's still the original models and assets.



Impressive stuff. Related link: http://www.b5scrolls.com

I just finished up a re-watch of Crusade, as it's been quite a few years since I last saw it. On this occasion I watched using a modified watch order from the original JMS order BUT ignoring the fact he wanted War Zone 2nd from last.. that's just nuts. To be honest I think the original TNT order wasn't that bad either. Sure, there were some discrepancies between episodes but given that this show was still finding its feet I don't think it really impacts the viewing experience that much. I did watch the original TNG run as it was on the DVD, and didn't really have an issue with it. It does end on a stronger episode, too. I also enjoyed the soundtrack a little more this time around. It gets a LOT of flak but I believe Evan Chen's style would have melded with the show better over time. I'm actually quite partial to the music from season 1 of B5, I think it adds a charm to the show that, by season 5 was largely gone. It's like comparing Star Trek TNG's season 3 scores to season 7. The latter is competently written music, but very bland at times. I think B5 also had a lot of bland scores later in its run; only mitigated by the brilliant scores written for the finale and the Centauri arc.

I just found a copy of the Crusade OST so I'm giving it a more detailed listen. Unfortunately some of the tracks from the show seem missing (in particular the 'Gideon' theme with the synth-strings)

I shall continue vomiting thoughts later.

Re: The random Babylon 5 vomiting thread

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:10 am
by karajorma
I'm in the middle of a rewatch of my own since I've been following Mark Oshiro's journey through the show over on Mark Watches. He's just watched A Call to Arms and is about to start on Crusade (which I haven't watched anywhere near as much as B5).

Re: The random Babylon 5 vomiting thread

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:55 am
by Hunter
Great! I've just started watching S1 of B5 again using the 1080p versions. It was a nice find, albeit somewhat sketchy.
I'll have to give that site a read - reminds me of Jammer's Reviews somewhat. A place you can spend hours and hours reading.

Random video find:


Re: The random Babylon 5 vomiting thread

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:43 pm
by karajorma
He also posts reaction videos where he watches the show. He's actually cool enough to allow people to download copies even if they haven't paid via The Black Market

Re: The random Babylon 5 vomiting thread

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:12 pm
by Hunter
I have a mammoth task ahead of me with this re-watch, because I'm also doing a binge read of the Babylon 5 novels and trilogies. I need more hours in the day.

Watching S1 has got me thinking - B5 has a lot of rich world building, especially in the early seasons, and it makes me think that B5 is perfect for the prequel treatment that so many shows get. I realize it's unlikely to ever happen, and JMS is quite stubborn when it comes to the portrayal of his vision - But so many shows out there have their prequels, even if they don't need or deserve it. But B5 definitely has a lot of material to work with and under the helm of competent writers it could do well. The early expansion era, the Dilgar conflict.. This is why I love watching The Expanse, because you could easily imagine The Expanse taking place in the pre-expansion era of B5.

Edit: I've started watching his reaction videos, good fun. I'll put them on while doing exercise and working on side projects. :)

Re: The random Babylon 5 vomiting thread

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 3:28 pm
by Xelions
Dr. Jennie Song... for a second there I thought she may have been related to one of the original actors' off set. Media Therapy ~ http://b5podcast.com/ Also seemed natural on camera in that clip.

But so many shows out there have their prequels, even if they don't need or deserve it. But B5 definitely has a lot of material to work with and under the helm of competent writers it could do well. The early expansion era, the Dilgar conflict.. This is why I love watching The Expanse, because you could easily imagine The Expanse taking place in the pre-expansion era of B5.
Interesting take on Expanse there in relation to B5. Once JMS is gone who retains the rights, living relatives or studio?

Re: The random Babylon 5 vomiting thread

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 7:18 am
by Hunter
The B5 podcast looks like a case of procrastination if I've ever seen one! I know that feeling all to well! But there is the original podcast series, which over 200 episodes.

I think JMS has said many times he'd rather go big or go home when it comes to B5. It wouldn't surprise me if people have approached him about doing another B5 project, but if JMS doesn't have creative control it's unlikely to ever happen. Personally I feel that JMS is not the type to 'take B5 with him to the grave' when he goes, rather he'll pass it on to someone and maybe the IP will be revisited at some point with the explicit rule that the original series as it stands cannot be remade or rebooted, instead, a different story taking place either as a prequel or sequel within the constraints of the universe and its rules.

Re: The random Babylon 5 vomiting thread

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 9:25 am
by Xelions
the original series as it stands cannot be remade or rebooted, instead, a different story taking place either as a prequel or sequel within the constraints of the universe and its rules.
I'd like that, maybe even a story that fits somewhere within the B5 story arc that we didn't see.

Re: The random Babylon 5 vomiting thread

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:33 pm
by Hunter
I've completed my re-watch of the series, along with Crusade (think I'll read that Crusade BTS book again). Next up is to finish the Legion of Fire trilogy. I'll be holding onto these upscaled versions of the show, they are pretty decent and quite poorly seeded - doesn't look they'll be around much longer. I've also got the entire 'Mark Watches' collection for Babylon 5. Thanks to Kara for introducing me!

Re: The random Babylon 5 vomiting thread

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:09 pm
by Xelions
I'd have to wait some time before I could watch the up-scaled versions - seen the show too many times as it is.

Re: The random Babylon 5 vomiting thread

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:40 am
by Hunter
Indeed. My last watch was in 2013 (I think) so it's a fair amount of time. I also re-watched Firefly too because I was having a Summer Glau moment.

She retired from acting and is raising a kid now.:
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What a pretty family!

Re: The random Babylon 5 vomiting thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:07 pm
by CIH
I'll rewatch Firefly fr time to time. Such a great show. "that ain't no preacher".
I can't really watch Babylon 5 without being reminded of the pain of wisdom teeth ...