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I can't believe I never realised this earlier

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:15 pm
by aldo
Knossos is the mythological site of the Labyrinth (and ergo the Minotaur).

I am really quite annoyed for not noticing this earlier.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:30 pm
by FSF
Hmm... you're right, there might be more to that name than just another archaeological site. The Nebula as the Labyrinth, the Shivans as the Minotaur... Now we need Theseus to go kill them all?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:50 pm
by ShadowGorrath
GTVA Colossus? Oh wait, that one got blown up...

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:39 pm
by aldo
Hmm... you're right, there might be more to that name than just another archaeological site. The Nebula as the Labyrinth, the Shivans as the Minotaur... Now we need Theseus to go kill them all?
Theseus kills the Minotaur and escapes the Labyrinth... so the player could be Theseus (and the Minotaur the Ravana). After killing the Minotaur (and some other events), Theseus has to enter Hades to rescue Persephone (rescuing Snipes / The Lions Den?)....

But I'd wager that's far too convuluted. The Labyrinth = Nebula thing is pretty cool though.

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:12 pm
by ghhyrd
I also just noticed that The Reapers from Mass Effect could be highly similar to the Shivans

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:08 pm
by BloodEagle
I also just noticed that The Reapers from Mass Effect could be highly similar to the Shivans
Except that the Shivans are really, really awesome.

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:40 am
by General Battuta
The Reapers are pretty well established to be riffs off Saberhagen berserkers perhaps via Reynolds Inhibitors. The Shivans were probably not even on their creators' radar.

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:53 am
by ngtm1r
Yeah, they've already dropped pretty obscure references about the Beserkers into ME2. (Qwib-Qwib? Jesus, I haven't even seen a copy of Berserker Base in years.)

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:50 am
by aldo
The Shivans are enough of a combination of abstract + generic that you could reference most stuff to them, though - red/black evil insect aliens with spikey ships.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:44 pm
by ghhyrd
The spikes make all the difference

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:34 pm
by Flipside
I've known this for ages (though, in fairness, I'm a big fan of Classical Greek mythology). Guess I just assumed everyone did.

It's even more interesting if you compare the idea of 'following the buoys' in the Nebula and following the piece of string in the original Labyrinth ;)

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:30 pm
by Snail
It's even more interesting if you compare the idea of 'following the buoys' in the Nebula and following the piece of string in the original Labyrinth ;)
Oooh... The metaphor runs deep...

Re: I can't believe I never realised this earlier

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 7:40 pm
by aldo
In this area, does anyone think the Trinity is named for the Trinity Nuclear Test?

Specifically, for the famous Oppenheimer quote; aside from the obvious Hindu link, there's also the realisation that the war-winning device is also one that could bring about the end of everything.

Re: I can't believe I never realised this earlier

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 7:43 pm
by Snail
I think that might be reading a little too much into it, but it's certainly possible...

Re: I can't believe I never realised this earlier

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:53 am
by Hunter
Dunno about the Shivans, but that was ghhyrd's first post in half a year. :o